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knobber Jobbler
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.28 11:14:00 -
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Tirabi wrote: Well I don't think that was the complete intention of CCP's thoughts on 0.0!
It doesn't really matter what the intention was, the outcome is all that's important. CCP didn't think through the whole Supercap and Titan thing properly when they added them. The outcome is you need many of both to be a meaningful presence outside of high sec.
However its not like renters are a new thing, the current renting alliances are just a resurgence of an old idea used in areas of space which previously had no moon goo. Now that moon goo has been devalued alliances will look to the optimal income source, which happens to be renters. Its not actually a bad thing for the game as a whole by itself, some players don't want to deal with owning Sov and will pay someone else to do it. Its the Sov system itself which is broken.
None of this is the fault of the alliances or players in the game, its CCP's fault for not thinking things through. Its their sandbox and their tools that are used. CCP is choosing not to prioritise fixing any of it. |
knobber Jobbler
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.09.26 11:11:56 -
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Blood Siphon wrote:Lets see who has it better....
Renters and big alliances / coalitions get to have 70% of all regions in null sec , means 80% of them are empty systems with maybe 1-2 logistics corps managing them just for the pos incomes , you may have 1-2 systems with bunch of players in them , maybe a few more.
Which also means your intel channels are mediocre at best, you may get lucky and get a 3 jump intel on a enemy coming towards your miners, if that.
Now for providence, we have active fleets going at almost any time, they may vary from 5 members up to 200 depending on time of day, we dont have to go far because you travel the 30+ jumps to fight us.
Why do you travel to fight us? Oh thats right because we actually have active members in almost all of our systems , a fully operating coalition that works together rather then worrying about invading target a or target b, we rather role play a bit and have fun enjoying a game instead of bothering with a bunch of renters.
Because you waste the time to go 30+ jumps we hardly have to leave home to kill you, in which you say that we will never go far? We see you coming as soon as you step foot in the region, we are able to mobilize within a reasonable time frame because our intel is actually active, we have players constantly going in and out of them to use them rather then having to look for a target.
If you really think about it, we have gone farther than any other coalition because we focus on what matters most, having fun , holding our region , enjoying the game to the fullest without the drama of renters , or having a bunch of unused space. Most fights between the bigger coalitions almost have to be planned out because your so spread out.
So yes we are rich. Rich in content that just naturally occures for us rather then having to be forced to generate.
I like reading posts from CVA people. They're so disjointed from reality it helps pass the time while waiting for them to undock and actually fight.
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knobber Jobbler
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.09.26 18:53:50 -
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Those old assumptions don't always apply, just ask Kadeshi and Darkness about their disastrous series of engagements with EG. |
knobber Jobbler
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.10 14:13:50 -
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Ocih wrote:Rental is a dirty word but it's really about a lack of contract options.
It would have been nice to see a polar opposite of War Dec where we could contract blue standings and let some role play corp that fancies themselves professional Ice miners, a 3 month contract to certain systems. The rental system is really about private contracting of smaller corporations by larger, military ones. It just needs legitimate mechanics to make it legitimate.
A long time ago, CCP once stated that the contract system would be reworked to include treaties and such. There is nothing wrong with renting or protection rackets in EVE if people are willing to set them up and others are willing to pay.
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knobber Jobbler
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.12.15 16:21:06 -
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You fail to understand why they won't do this. People rent because it's easy, stress free sov. You pay a little every month for someone else to do the grunt work of sorting out the sov and protecting you.
People will always rent, there is nothing CCP can do to really stop that and why should they? It's a valid method of income for the land lords. Look at it this way, NCdotte cannot effectively defend their massive renter empire from a concerted effort by willing parties who wish to take it.
However effort appears to be the key word here. Despite all the hurf by all the people who want in on Sov and overjoyed at the changes in Pheobe, none of them have actually bothered to go and take some space, which could be easily taken right now. They're not willing to get a few hundred like minded people into a corporation and go and take it.
The old saying goes: You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. |
knobber Jobbler
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.12.15 23:05:23 -
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I have literally no idea what you just said. |
knobber Jobbler
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.12.16 12:27:04 -
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No, what you initially wrote still doesn't make any sense. |
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